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	<title>Comments on: The state of the art of news</title>
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	<description>Discussing the future of news</description>
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		<title>By: PR</title>
		<link>http://newsinnovation.com/2010/01/11/the-state-of-the-art-of-news/#comment-749</link>
		<dc:creator>PR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jun 2010 15:00:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I normally respect Jeff Jarvis. Not this time.

The real world (as opposed to the hypothetical future) keeps insisting that people need to get paid so they can eat, buy insurance, live somewhere. There is not going to be an army of volunteers who might cover a regular &#039;beat&#039;, and provide institutional memory, and a range of contacts in the shifting sands of government bureaucracy.  The study is accurate because that&#039;s what has worked. To &#039;re-define&quot; news you have to understand the news gathering and vetting process first. It&#039;s not as if how it&#039;s done now just plopped down out of the sky.

We are clearly in a transition period where online readers will gain in value to the advertiser but during this period, however long it may be, professional journalism will not be replaced by part time contributors. That&#039;s just absurd.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I normally respect Jeff Jarvis. Not this time.</p>
<p>The real world (as opposed to the hypothetical future) keeps insisting that people need to get paid so they can eat, buy insurance, live somewhere. There is not going to be an army of volunteers who might cover a regular &#8216;beat&#8217;, and provide institutional memory, and a range of contacts in the shifting sands of government bureaucracy.  The study is accurate because that&#8217;s what has worked. To &#8216;re-define&#8221; news you have to understand the news gathering and vetting process first. It&#8217;s not as if how it&#8217;s done now just plopped down out of the sky.</p>
<p>We are clearly in a transition period where online readers will gain in value to the advertiser but during this period, however long it may be, professional journalism will not be replaced by part time contributors. That&#8217;s just absurd.</p>
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		<title>By: This Week in Review: Who’s responsible for local news, and Google plays hardball with China &#124; Mark Coddington</title>
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		<dc:creator>This Week in Review: Who’s responsible for local news, and Google plays hardball with China &#124; Mark Coddington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 16:48:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] newspapers are?” column. And several new media thinkers pooh-poohed it, led by CUNY prof Jeff Jarvis, who said it “sets up a strawman and then lights the match.” Steve Buttry (who notes he’s a [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] newspapers are?” column. And several new media thinkers pooh-poohed it, led by CUNY prof Jeff Jarvis, who said it “sets up a strawman and then lights the match.” Steve Buttry (who notes he’s a [...]</p>
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		<title>By: This Week in Review: Who&#8217;s responsible for local news, and Google plays hardball with China » Nieman Journalism Lab</title>
		<link>http://newsinnovation.com/2010/01/11/the-state-of-the-art-of-news/#comment-747</link>
		<dc:creator>This Week in Review: Who&#8217;s responsible for local news, and Google plays hardball with China » Nieman Journalism Lab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 15:02:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] newspapers are?&#8221; column. And several new media thinkers pooh-poohed it, led by CUNY prof Jeff Jarvis, who said it &#8220;sets up a strawman and then lights the match.&#8221; Steve Buttry (who notes [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] newspapers are?&#8221; column. And several new media thinkers pooh-poohed it, led by CUNY prof Jeff Jarvis, who said it &#8220;sets up a strawman and then lights the match.&#8221; Steve Buttry (who notes [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Old media find comfort in study of Baltimore media (they didn&#8217;t look very close) &#171; Pursuing the Complete Community Connection</title>
		<link>http://newsinnovation.com/2010/01/11/the-state-of-the-art-of-news/#comment-746</link>
		<dc:creator>Old media find comfort in study of Baltimore media (they didn&#8217;t look very close) &#171; Pursuing the Complete Community Connection</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2010 22:16:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Poynter&#8217;s Bill Mitchell and David Carr of the New York Times raised important issues and Jeff Jarvis bluntly pointed out dangers in reading much into the study (though he noted it has [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Poynter&#8217;s Bill Mitchell and David Carr of the New York Times raised important issues and Jeff Jarvis bluntly pointed out dangers in reading much into the study (though he noted it has [...]</p>
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		<title>By: links for 2010-01-11 &#124; Joanna Geary</title>
		<link>http://newsinnovation.com/2010/01/11/the-state-of-the-art-of-news/#comment-745</link>
		<dc:creator>links for 2010-01-11 &#124; Joanna Geary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2010 21:01:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The state of the art of news  &quot;We are also just beginning to see experimentation with the form of news, moving past the articles the study measures. News is becoming more of a process than a product; it is being disseminated in new ways thanks to search and social and algorithmic links. News is changing. &quot; (tags: innovation newspapers) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The state of the art of news  &quot;We are also just beginning to see experimentation with the form of news, moving past the articles the study measures. News is becoming more of a process than a product; it is being disseminated in new ways thanks to search and social and algorithmic links. News is changing. &quot; (tags: innovation newspapers) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: New PEJ Study Offers Detailed Look at Local News Ecosystem &#171; The Changing Newsroom</title>
		<link>http://newsinnovation.com/2010/01/11/the-state-of-the-art-of-news/#comment-744</link>
		<dc:creator>New PEJ Study Offers Detailed Look at Local News Ecosystem &#171; The Changing Newsroom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2010 17:57:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the engine behind most new information.  The &#8220;new&#8221; media folks such as Jeff Jarvis are arguing that the study is nothing more than a sad shill for the dying old guard [Addendum: as Jarvis points [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the engine behind most new information.  The &#8220;new&#8221; media folks such as Jeff Jarvis are arguing that the study is nothing more than a sad shill for the dying old guard [Addendum: as Jarvis points [...]</p>
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