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	<title>Comments on: Did we ever pay for content?</title>
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		<title>By: Kochnev Ilya</title>
		<link>http://newsinnovation.com/2009/09/19/did-we-ever-pay-for-content/#comment-625</link>
		<dc:creator>Kochnev Ilya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 02:51:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The reason newspapers and magazines are struggling is because the revenue from online advertising is so poor and online advertising is easy to avoid.&quot;
+1. In my country (Russia) that situation is similar.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The reason newspapers and magazines are struggling is because the revenue from online advertising is so poor and online advertising is easy to avoid.&#8221;<br />
+1. In my country (Russia) that situation is similar.</p>
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		<title>By: Owen</title>
		<link>http://newsinnovation.com/2009/09/19/did-we-ever-pay-for-content/#comment-624</link>
		<dc:creator>Owen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 01:41:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since (sadly) Paul Graham doesn&#039;t provide contact information on his site, I will have to respond here. Bullshit. Well, partial bullshit.

Consumer are of course buying content - you don&#039;t decide to buy Time or the Economist based on the number of pages - you buy based on whether you want to read the articles (avoid obligatory Playboy joke here).

Publishers are in fact selling either content or a vehicle for advertising. In the magazine model almost all are selling a vehicle for advertising - and they know a LOT about that vehicle and what percentage of the magazine can be ads before it starts losing readers. The cover price of Time has never come CLOSE to paying for the production of the content. The ads are where the money is.

But some magazines and almost all books are a subscription or one off model. The publisher is selling the content for a price. Free content on the internet is only free because it is still stuck in the advertising is where the money is model. Or it is crap. Some publishers are finding lead generation models rather than advertising - but it is still the same - the good content costs you somehow.

The reason newspapers and magazines are struggling is because the revenue from online advertising is so poor and online advertising is easy to avoid. Either they will figure out how to increase the ad revenues or they will find a new way to get money or they will fold.

But it is the content the consumer wants - not the medium.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since (sadly) Paul Graham doesn&#8217;t provide contact information on his site, I will have to respond here. Bullshit. Well, partial bullshit.</p>
<p>Consumer are of course buying content &#8211; you don&#8217;t decide to buy Time or the Economist based on the number of pages &#8211; you buy based on whether you want to read the articles (avoid obligatory Playboy joke here).</p>
<p>Publishers are in fact selling either content or a vehicle for advertising. In the magazine model almost all are selling a vehicle for advertising &#8211; and they know a LOT about that vehicle and what percentage of the magazine can be ads before it starts losing readers. The cover price of Time has never come CLOSE to paying for the production of the content. The ads are where the money is.</p>
<p>But some magazines and almost all books are a subscription or one off model. The publisher is selling the content for a price. Free content on the internet is only free because it is still stuck in the advertising is where the money is model. Or it is crap. Some publishers are finding lead generation models rather than advertising &#8211; but it is still the same &#8211; the good content costs you somehow.</p>
<p>The reason newspapers and magazines are struggling is because the revenue from online advertising is so poor and online advertising is easy to avoid. Either they will figure out how to increase the ad revenues or they will find a new way to get money or they will fold.</p>
<p>But it is the content the consumer wants &#8211; not the medium.</p>
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		<title>By: New Media: Change within Journalism and Business Models &#171; J349T</title>
		<link>http://newsinnovation.com/2009/09/19/did-we-ever-pay-for-content/#comment-623</link>
		<dc:creator>New Media: Change within Journalism and Business Models &#171; J349T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 06:42:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] story, but if it&#8217;s merged with other content such as video, photography, and radio, it might change the consumers&#8217; minds.  With multimedia, The New York Times has done a stellar job in incorporating video, audio and audio [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] story, but if it&#8217;s merged with other content such as video, photography, and radio, it might change the consumers&#8217; minds.  With multimedia, The New York Times has done a stellar job in incorporating video, audio and audio [...]</p>
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		<title>By: saving the news. &#171; jennifer whitcomb.</title>
		<link>http://newsinnovation.com/2009/09/19/did-we-ever-pay-for-content/#comment-622</link>
		<dc:creator>saving the news. &#171; jennifer whitcomb.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 04:19:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Another proposed business strategy is micropayments – or asking for small amounts of money in exchange for small amounts of content. Think iTunes and the music industry.  And while I think this strategy worked well for musicians, I don’t see how it can work for journalists.  Look at link journalism.  Many people gather their news from their friends via emails or blogs with links.  If just one organization requests payments for access to their news there are going to be a dozen more who don’t – and those are the links that will get regenerated, resent, retweeted.  People will find a way to redistribute the news and will easily be able to forgo organizations that ask for money for content. Even if every major news organization decided to ask for payment for content, there would still be bloggers out there ready to distribute the news for audiences.  And besides, did we ever really pay for content? [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Another proposed business strategy is micropayments – or asking for small amounts of money in exchange for small amounts of content. Think iTunes and the music industry.  And while I think this strategy worked well for musicians, I don’t see how it can work for journalists.  Look at link journalism.  Many people gather their news from their friends via emails or blogs with links.  If just one organization requests payments for access to their news there are going to be a dozen more who don’t – and those are the links that will get regenerated, resent, retweeted.  People will find a way to redistribute the news and will easily be able to forgo organizations that ask for money for content. Even if every major news organization decided to ask for payment for content, there would still be bloggers out there ready to distribute the news for audiences.  And besides, did we ever really pay for content? [...]</p>
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